{"id":77,"date":"2012-04-27T19:06:09","date_gmt":"2012-04-27T17:06:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.guiamanresa.com\/blogwp\/?p=77"},"modified":"2013-02-17T09:16:23","modified_gmt":"2013-02-17T07:16:23","slug":"fora-bo-q-ningu-no-es-fes-il%e2%80%a2lusions-esperant-q-la-gran-bretanya-o-els-aliats-treguin-a-franco","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.guiamanresa.cat\/blogwp\/fora-bo-q-ningu-no-es-fes-il%e2%80%a2lusions-esperant-q-la-gran-bretanya-o-els-aliats-treguin-a-franco\/","title":{"rendered":"F\u00f3ra bo q. ning\u00fa no es fes il\u2022lusions esperant q. la Gran Bretanya o els Aliats treguin a Franco"},"content":{"rendered":"<p align=\"center\">L&#8217;Associaci\u00f3 Mem\u00f2ria i Hist\u00f2ria de Manresa\u00a0publica<br \/>\ntres cartes in\u00e8dites de Batista i Roca, el 1945<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><em>&#8220;F\u00f3ra bo q. ning\u00fa no es fes il\u00b7lusions esperant q. la Gran Bretanya o els Aliats treguin a Franco&#8221;<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Ja es poden consultar a<a href=\"http:\/\/www.memoria.cat\/creus\/node\/1091\" target=\"_blank\"> www.memoria.cat\/creus.batista<\/a><\/p>\n<p>A partir d\u2019avui el portal de webs de l\u2019Associaci\u00f3 Mem\u00f2ria i Hist\u00f2ria de Manresa <a href=\"http:\/\/www.memoria.cat\/\" target=\"_blank\">www.memoria.cat<\/a> publica tres cartes in\u00e8dites que l\u2019historiador, pol\u00edtic i etn\u00f2leg Josep Maria Batista i Roca (1895-1978) va enviar a Jaume Creus i Ventura, i cinc cartes de Jaume Creus a Batista i Roca. Totes s\u00f3n in\u00e8dites i van ser escrites entre 1944 i 1945.<\/p>\n<p><strong>No reclamar cap Estatut, sin\u00f3 el dret a l\u2019autodeterminaci\u00f3 de les nacionalitats ib\u00e8riques<\/strong><br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nA l\u2019epistolari es parla del present i futur de Catalunya. Batista i Roca afirma que la posici\u00f3 del Consell Nacional de Catalunya a Londres \u2013organisme del qual era secretari- havia de ser la de \u201c<em>impulsar la marxa progressiva del nostre poble<\/em>\u201d i reivindicar \u201c<em>el dret a l\u2019autodeterminaci\u00f3 de les nacionalitats ib\u00e8riques per crear una Confederaci\u00f3 d\u2019estats lliures<\/em>\u201d i no pas reclamar cap estatut. Batista i Roca tamb\u00e9 opinava que calia mirar el futur i que el passat tan convuls que havia viscut el pa\u00eds havia de servir de lli\u00e7\u00f3 per no repetir errors: \u201c<em>La gent a Catalunya t\u00e9 avui encara un record viv\u00edssim, i un gran horror, de tot el q. pass\u00e0 durant la Guerra Civil, sobretot durant els primers temps \u2013assassinats, saqueigs de cases particulars, incendis, incautacions, col\u00b7lectivitzacions, etc.\u2212. Qui vulgui governar ha de donar al nostre poble una ferma garantia de q. aix\u00f2 no es repetir\u00e0 mai m\u00e9s<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Cal la uni\u00f3 de tots els catalans<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Batista i Roca tamb\u00e9 informa Jaume Creus que Carles Pi i Sunyer ja ha sondejat les diferents forces pol\u00edtiques per a la formaci\u00f3 del govern i del viatge que vol fer a Fran\u00e7a per entrevistar-se amb el president Josep Irla. Tamb\u00e9 afirma: \u201c<em>El nostre desig, repeteixo, \u00e9s obtenir la uni\u00f3 de tots els catalans<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Tamb\u00e9 demana a Creus qu\u00e8 sap de l\u2019opini\u00f3 dels catalans de l\u2019interior: \u201c<em>Qu\u00e8 sabeu de Barcelona? La clau de tot \u00e9s el q. digui la nostra gent. Convindria molt q. mantingu\u00e9ssiu amb els de l\u2019interior tots els contactes que pogu\u00e9ssiu<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conven\u00e7ut que Gran Bretanya no faria caure Franco<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Batista, l\u2019agost de 1945, estava conven\u00e7ut que els pa\u00efsos aliats, guanyadors de la Segona Guerra Mundial, no farien caure Franco: \u201c<em>F\u00f3ra bo q. ning\u00fa no es fes il\u00b7lusions esperant q. la Gran Bretanya o els Aliats treguin a Franco. Ahir mateix el Ministre d\u2019Afers Exteriors declar\u00e0 al Parlament q. el r\u00e8gim d\u2019Espanya l\u2019han de decidir els espanyols i q. la intervenci\u00f3 d\u2019estats estrangers en els afers d\u2019Espanya tindria l\u2019efecte oposat del que hom desitja i serviria probablement per a enfortir la posici\u00f3 de Franco\u2019\u201d<strong>.<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Un govern on no hi hagi Tarradellas<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Al seu torn, Jaume Creus li explica els greus problemes que comporta la dispersi\u00f3 i a\u00efllament dels catalans a l\u2019exili: \u201c<em>hi ha una desorientaci\u00f3 terrible que fa que sigui aprofitada per certs elements. No sabeu quin \u00e8xit f\u00f3ra que hi hagu\u00e9s alg\u00fa de vosaltres per aquesta regi\u00f3 fronteritza<\/em>\u201d. Tamb\u00e9 li parla de la bona organitzaci\u00f3 que t\u00e9 la CNT i de la situaci\u00f3 de minoria en qu\u00e8 es troba <em>\u201cl\u2019element catalanista\u201d<\/em>, malgrat que creu que el Front Nacional de Catalunya <em>\u201ccada dia prendr\u00e0 m\u00e9s for\u00e7a\u201d<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>En aquesta mateixa carta, datada el 19\/9\/1944, l&#8217;informa del lloc on es troben alguns catalans exiliats: \u201d<em>&#8230;amb el qui estic en m\u00e9s contacte \u00e9s amb el Dr. Mestre-Puig, que tamb\u00e9 viu aqu\u00ed, i Hilari Salvad\u00f3, que \u00e9s a B\u00e9ziers. A Montpeller hi ha un bon nucli, entre ells Rovira i Virgili i Mart\u00ed Barrera, a Perpiny\u00e0 tamb\u00e9, i a Prades els mestres Fabra i Casals<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Jaume Creus, el juliol de 1945, expressa a Batista i Roca la seva preocupaci\u00f3 pel retard en la formaci\u00f3 del govern catal\u00e0, fet que, segons ell, perjudica Catalunya i exigeix un <em>\u201cgovern fort\u201d<\/em>, potenciar-hi la gent jove, deixar-ne al marge \u201c<em>moltes carcasses de prohoms\u201d<\/em> i \u201cs<em>obretot que no hi posi cacatues, i molt menys Tarradellas; no vos podeu imaginar l\u2019antipatia que t\u00e9, nom\u00e9s t\u00e9 al seu costat els est\u00f3macs agra\u00efts. Ha sigut llest i en tots els grans nuclis en t\u00e9 uns quants<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Aprendre dels bascos<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tamb\u00e9 mostra la seva admiraci\u00f3 per com s\u2019estan movent els bascos en l\u2019\u00e0mbit internacional. El maig de 1945 escriu: \u201c<em>Les r\u00e0di[o]s, Americana i Anglesa, van comunicar que:<\/em> \u2018Hab\u00eda llegado a Am\u00e9rica de paso para S. Francisco, en avi\u00f3n especial, el Presidente de la Rep\u00fablica Vasca Sr. Aguirre\u2019. <em>Aix\u00f2 jo ho vaig sentir-ho. Qu\u00e8 vos sembla? De nosaltres, ni existim<\/em>\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>Trobareu el nou apartat del web a:<\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=74&amp;F=H\">http:\/\/www.memoria.cat\/creus.batista<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=77&amp;F=H\">L\u2019epistolari Josep Maria Batista i Roca-Jaume Creus i Ventura i la corresponent transcripci\u00f3 \u00edntegra<\/a><em>.<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=76&amp;F=H\">Les frases m\u00e9s significatives de les cartes<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=75&amp;F=H\">D\u2019on han sorgit aquests documents?<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Tamb\u00e9 es poden consultar:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=45&amp;F=H\"><strong>El testimoni de Jaume Creus en la proclamaci\u00f3 de la Rep\u00fablica<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=44&amp;F=H\"><strong>Les set cartes de Pau Casals a Jaume Creus<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=79&amp;F=H\"><strong>7 cartes in\u00e8dites de Joan Alavedra a Jaume Creus<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=43&amp;F=H\"><strong>Una carta de Pompeu Fabra i tres fotografies de l\u2019homenatge que se li va retre a l\u2019exili<\/strong><\/a><strong>. \u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=40&amp;F=H\"><strong>Dos documents sobre la mort de Francesc Maci\u00e0<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=80&amp;F=H\"><strong>Documents in\u00e8dits dels presidents Joan Casanovas i Josep Irla i 9 fotografies de l\u2019enterrament de Josep Casanovas<\/strong><\/a><strong>.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.espainucli.com\/link.php?M=1745&amp;N=50&amp;L=78&amp;F=H\"><strong>2 cartes in\u00e8dites del doctor Josep Trueta<\/strong><\/a><strong>.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\/\/<br \/>\n\/\/ <\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>L&#8217;Associaci\u00f3 Mem\u00f2ria i Hist\u00f2ria de Manresa\u00a0publica tres cartes in\u00e8dites de Batista i Roca, el 1945 &#8220;F\u00f3ra bo q. ning\u00fa no es fes il\u00b7lusions esperant q. la Gran Bretanya o els Aliats treguin a Franco&#8221; Ja es poden consultar a www.memoria.cat\/creus.batista &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.guiamanresa.cat\/blogwp\/fora-bo-q-ningu-no-es-fes-il%e2%80%a2lusions-esperant-q-la-gran-bretanya-o-els-aliats-treguin-a-franco\/\">Continua llegint <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on get_the_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[14],"class_list":["post-77","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-general","tag-josep-maria-batista"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v26.8 - 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